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Please add your engine's limits here. | Please add your engine's limits here. | ||
− | This page is based on | + | This page is based on Bengt Jardrup's http://user.tninet.se/~xir870k/readmegl.txt with kind permission. Brainstorm about what other limits might be interesting (if any) is welcome on the Talk page. |
− | |||
=== TODO === | === TODO === | ||
− | |||
*Nicer table look | *Nicer table look | ||
* means: Check engine's readme for comments and details | * means: Check engine's readme for comments and details | ||
+ | F means: Hard limit as a consequence of Q1 file format (typically BSP). Increasing requires a format change. | ||
== BSP == | == BSP == | ||
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{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1" style="text-align: center; width: auto;" | {| class="wikitable sortable" border="1" style="text-align: center; width: auto;" | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! !! Clipnodes !! Faces !! Lightmaps !! Marksurfaces !! Nodes !! Planes !! Static entities !! Surface extents !! Texinfo !! Visleafs !! Vis/light data !! Dimensions | + | ! !! [[Clipnodes]] !! [[Faces]] !! [[Lightmaps]] !! [[Marksurfaces]] !! [[Nodes]] !! [[Planes]] !! [[Static entities]] !! [[Surface extents]] !! [[Texinfo]] !! [[Visleafs]] !! [[Vis]]/[[light]] data !! Dimensions |
|- | |- | ||
! Normal limit | ! Normal limit | ||
− | | | + | | 32768 || 32768 || 64 || 32768 || 32768 || 32768 || 128 || 512/256 || 32768 || 8192 || heapsize || 4096 |
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! Bengt Jardrup's | ||
+ | |65530 F || 65536 || 1024 || 65536 || 65535 F || 65536 F || 256 || >512/256 || >32768 || 32768 || 2048M* || 4096 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[DirectQ]] | ||
+ | | 65530 F || 65536 || Unlimited || 65536 || 65535 F || 65536 F || Unlimited || (max texture size * 16) - 16 || 65536 F || 32768 || Unlimited || 3.402823466e+38f | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! | + | ! [[ProQuake 4]] |
− | | | + | | 32768 || 65536 || 64 || 65536|| 32768 || 32768 || 128 || 512/256 || 32768 || 8192 || heapsize || 4096 |
|- | |- | ||
− | ! | + | ! [[Quore]] |
− | | | + | | 32768 || 65536 || 256 || 65536 || 32768 || 32768 || 512 || 512 || 4096 || 16384 || heapsize || 4096 |
|- | |- | ||
− | ! | + | ! [[DarkPlaces]] |
− | | | + | |65530 F || Unlimited || Unlimited || Unlimited || 65535 F || 65536 F || 256 || 4080 || 65536 F || 32768 || Unlimited || 1073741824 |
|- | |- | ||
− | ! | + | ! [[Fitzquake]] |
− | | | + | | 65530 F || 65536 || 256 || 65535 || 65535-numfaces || ? || 512 || 2000 || ? || 32768 || ? || 4096 |
|} | |} | ||
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| 8192 || 128 || 480 || 2048 || 1024/2000 | | 8192 || 128 || 480 || 2048 || 1024/2000 | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! | + | ! Bengt Jardrup's |
|16384 || 256 || 1024 || 4096 || 4096/3984 | |16384 || 256 || 1024 || 4096 || 4096/3984 | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! DirectQ | + | ! [[DirectQ]] |
− | |Unlimited || Unlimited || Unlimited || | + | |Unused || Unused || Unlimited || Unlimited || Unlimited |
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[ProQuake 4]] | ||
+ | | 8192 || 128 || 480 || 4096 || 4096/3984 | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! Quore | + | ! [[Quore]] |
| 8192 || 128 || 480 || 2048 || 2048 | | 8192 || 128 || 480 || 2048 || 2048 | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! DarkPlaces | + | ! [[DarkPlaces]] |
| Unlimited || Unlimited || Unlimited || 65536 || 65536 | | Unlimited || Unlimited || Unlimited || 65536 || 65536 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[FTE]] | ||
+ | | NA || NA || Unlimited || Unlimited || 65536 | ||
|} | |} | ||
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{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1" style="text-align: center; width: auto;" | {| class="wikitable sortable" border="1" style="text-align: center; width: auto;" | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! !! Channels !! Dynamic channels | + | ! !! [[Channels]] !! [[Dynamic channels]] |
|- | |- | ||
! Normal limit | ! Normal limit | ||
| 128 || 8 | | 128 || 8 | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! | + | ! Bengt Jardrup's |
|516 || 128 | |516 || 128 | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! DirectQ | + | ! [[DirectQ]] |
|516 || 128 | |516 || 128 | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! Quore | + | ! [[ProQuake 4]] |
+ | | 128 || 8 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[Quore]] | ||
| 128 || 8 | | 128 || 8 | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! DarkPlaces | + | ! [[DarkPlaces]] |
|1028 || 512 | |1028 || 512 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[FTE]] | ||
+ | |256 || 8 | ||
|} | |} | ||
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{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1" style="text-align: center; width: auto;" | {| class="wikitable sortable" border="1" style="text-align: center; width: auto;" | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! !! Clients !! Packet size !! Progs globals !! Runaway loop, QC !! Signon buffer size !! Stack size, QC !! Static client message | + | ! !! [[Clients]] !! [[Packet size]] (Reliable, Unreliable) !! Progs [[globals]] !! [[Runaway loop]], QC !! [[Signon buffer size]] !! [[Stack size]], QC !! [[Static client message]] |
|- | |- | ||
! Normal limit | ! Normal limit | ||
− | | 16 || | + | | 16 || 8192 / 1024 || 32k || 100k ops || ~8k || 32 || 1024 |
|- | |- | ||
− | ! | + | ! Bengt Jardrup's |
− | |64 || ~64k || 64k || 5M || ~64k || 256 || 8192 | + | |64 || ~64k || 64k || 5M ops || ~64k || 256 || 8192 |
|- | |- | ||
− | ! DirectQ | + | ! [[DirectQ]] |
− | |16 || ~64k || ? (check) || 5M || ~64k || | + | |16 || ~64k || ? (check) || 5M ops || ~64k || 2048 || 8192 |
|- | |- | ||
− | ! | + | ! [[ProQuake 4]] |
− | | | + | | 16 || 8192 / 1024 || 32k || 100k ops || ~8k || 32 || 1024 |
|- | |- | ||
− | ! DarkPlaces | + | ! [[Quore]] |
− | | 255 || 64k | + | | 32 || ~32k || 32k || 1M ops || ~32k || ? || ? |
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[DarkPlaces]] | ||
+ | | 255 || 64k / 1400 || 64k || 10M jumps || 64k || 16k || 64k | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[FTE]] | ||
+ | | 32 || 1k*16 / 1.4k || 4B || 100M jumps || 1k*16 || 64f,4kv || ? | ||
|} | |} | ||
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{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1" style="text-align: center; width: auto;" | {| class="wikitable sortable" border="1" style="text-align: center; width: auto;" | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! !! Beams !! Console background !! Far clip distance !! GL textures !! Temporary entities !! Texture size !! Texture size, sky !! Video modes !! Visible edicts !! WinQ bmodel edges !! WinQ bmodel vertices !! Particles | + | ! !! [[Beams]] !! [[Console]] background !! [[Far clip distance]] !! GL textures !! Temporary entities !! Texture size !! Texture size, sky !! [[Video modes]] !! Visible edicts !! WinQ [[bmodel]] edges !! WinQ [[bmodel]] vertices !! [[Particles]] |
|- | |- | ||
! Normal limit | ! Normal limit | ||
− | | 24 || 640x480/320x200 || 4096 || 1024 || 64 || 1200k || =256x128 || 30 || 256 || 1000 || 500 || | + | | 24 || 640x480/320x200 || 4096 || 1024 || 64 || 1200k || =256x128 || 30 || 256 || 1000 || 500 || 2048 + |
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! Bengt Jardrup's | ||
+ | |256 || 1024M* || 16384 || 2048* || 512 || 1024M* || any* || 600 || 4096 || 3000 || 1000 || 2048 + | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! | + | ! [[DirectQ]] |
− | | | + | | Unlimited || 640x480 + || Infinite || Unlimited || Unlimited || Unlimited || 4x2 or higher || Unlimited || 65536 || N/A || N/A || Unlimited |
|- | |- | ||
− | ! | + | ! [[ProQuake 4]] |
− | | | + | | 24 || 640x480/320x200 || cvar set || 1024 || 64 || 1200k || =256x128 || 600 || 4096 || 3000 || 1000 || 2048 + |
|- | |- | ||
− | ! Quore | + | ! [[Quore]] |
− | | | + | | 32 || Current resolution || Unlimited || 2048 || 256 || 1200k || =256x128 || N/A || 1024 || N/A || N/A || 32k |
|- | |- | ||
− | ! DarkPlaces | + | ! [[DarkPlaces]] |
− | | 256 || Unlimited || Infinite || Unlimited || | + | | 256 || Unlimited || Infinite || Unlimited || 65536 || Unlimited || =256x128 || Unlimited || Unlimited || N/A || N/A || Unlimited |
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[FTE]] | ||
+ | | 64 || Unlimited || Infinite || Unlimited || Unlimited || Unlimited || =256x128 || N/A || Unlimited || N/A || N/A || 32k | ||
|} | |} | ||
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|- | |- | ||
− | ! !! Command/script buffer !! Console buffer size !! Edicts !! Efrags !! File handles !! Models, precached !! Mods, unique !! Sounds, precached !! Sounds, unique !! Temporary files !! Zone size, default | + | ! !! Command/script buffer !! Console buffer size !! [[Edicts]] !! [[Efrags]] !! File handles !! Models, precached !! Mods, unique !! Sounds, precached !! Sounds, unique !! Temporary files !! [[Zone size]], default |
|- | |- | ||
! Normal limit | ! Normal limit | ||
| 8k || 16k || 600 || 640 || 10 || 256 || 512 || 256 || 512 || heapsize || 48k | | 8k || 16k || 600 || 640 || 10 || 256 || 512 || 256 || 512 || heapsize || 48k | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! | + | ! Bengt Jardrup's |
|64k || 256k || 4096 || 2048 || 100 || 1024 || 2048 || 1024* || 2560 || 1024M* || 320k | |64k || 256k || 4096 || 2048 || 100 || 1024 || 2048 || 1024* || 2560 || 1024M* || 320k | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! DirectQ | + | ! [[DirectQ]] |
− | | | + | | 1024k || 256k || 65536 || N/A (unused) || N/A (unused) || 4096 || 4096 || 4096 || 512 || Unlimited || Unlimited |
|- | |- | ||
− | ! Quore | + | ! [[ProQuake 4]] |
+ | | 8k || 64k || 2048 || 640 || 10 || 256 || 512 || 256 || 512 || heapsize || 1 MB | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[Quore]] | ||
| 8k || 64k || 8192 || 2048 || 10 || 256 || 512 || 256 || 512 || heapsize || 48k | | 8k || 64k || 8192 || 2048 || 10 || 256 || 512 || 256 || 512 || heapsize || 48k | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! DarkPlaces | + | ! [[DarkPlaces]] |
− | | 640k || | + | | 640k || 1048576 || 32768 || Unlimited || Unlimited || 8192 || 8192 || 4096 || Unlimited || Unlimited || Unlimited |
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[FTE]] | ||
+ | | 64k C || lines:1024 C || 4m || N/A || N/A || 1024 || 2048 || 1024 || 2048 || Unlimited || Unlimited | ||
|} | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==See Also:== | ||
+ | * [[Engines]] | ||
+ | * http://www.quaddicted.com/engines/engine_comparison.html | ||
+ | [[Category:DarkPlaces]] |
Latest revision as of 12:59, 19 January 2014
Please add your engine's limits here.
This page is based on Bengt Jardrup's http://user.tninet.se/~xir870k/readmegl.txt with kind permission. Brainstorm about what other limits might be interesting (if any) is welcome on the Talk page.
TODO[edit]
- Nicer table look
* means: Check engine's readme for comments and details F means: Hard limit as a consequence of Q1 file format (typically BSP). Increasing requires a format change.
BSP[edit]
Clipnodes | Faces | Lightmaps | Marksurfaces | Nodes | Planes | Static entities | Surface extents | Texinfo | Visleafs | Vis/light data | Dimensions | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Normal limit | 32768 | 32768 | 64 | 32768 | 32768 | 32768 | 128 | 512/256 | 32768 | 8192 | heapsize | 4096 |
Bengt Jardrup's | 65530 F | 65536 | 1024 | 65536 | 65535 F | 65536 F | 256 | >512/256 | >32768 | 32768 | 2048M* | 4096 |
DirectQ | 65530 F | 65536 | Unlimited | 65536 | 65535 F | 65536 F | Unlimited | (max texture size * 16) - 16 | 65536 F | 32768 | Unlimited | 3.402823466e+38f |
ProQuake 4 | 32768 | 65536 | 64 | 65536 | 32768 | 32768 | 128 | 512/256 | 32768 | 8192 | heapsize | 4096 |
Quore | 32768 | 65536 | 256 | 65536 | 32768 | 32768 | 512 | 512 | 4096 | 16384 | heapsize | 4096 |
DarkPlaces | 65530 F | Unlimited | Unlimited | Unlimited | 65535 F | 65536 F | 256 | 4080 | 65536 F | 32768 | Unlimited | 1073741824 |
Fitzquake | 65530 F | 65536 | 256 | 65535 | 65535-numfaces | ? | 512 | 2000 | ? | 32768 | ? | 4096 |
MDL[edit]
Mesh commands | Mesh strips | Skin height | Triangles | Vertices | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Normal limit | 8192 | 128 | 480 | 2048 | 1024/2000 |
Bengt Jardrup's | 16384 | 256 | 1024 | 4096 | 4096/3984 |
DirectQ | Unused | Unused | Unlimited | Unlimited | Unlimited |
ProQuake 4 | 8192 | 128 | 480 | 4096 | 4096/3984 |
Quore | 8192 | 128 | 480 | 2048 | 2048 |
DarkPlaces | Unlimited | Unlimited | Unlimited | 65536 | 65536 |
FTE | NA | NA | Unlimited | Unlimited | 65536 |
Sounds[edit]
Channels | Dynamic channels | |
---|---|---|
Normal limit | 128 | 8 |
Bengt Jardrup's | 516 | 128 |
DirectQ | 516 | 128 |
ProQuake 4 | 128 | 8 |
Quore | 128 | 8 |
DarkPlaces | 1028 | 512 |
FTE | 256 | 8 |
Client/Server[edit]
Clients | Packet size (Reliable, Unreliable) | Progs globals | Runaway loop, QC | Signon buffer size | Stack size, QC | Static client message | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Normal limit | 16 | 8192 / 1024 | 32k | 100k ops | ~8k | 32 | 1024 |
Bengt Jardrup's | 64 | ~64k | 64k | 5M ops | ~64k | 256 | 8192 |
DirectQ | 16 | ~64k | ? (check) | 5M ops | ~64k | 2048 | 8192 |
ProQuake 4 | 16 | 8192 / 1024 | 32k | 100k ops | ~8k | 32 | 1024 |
Quore | 32 | ~32k | 32k | 1M ops | ~32k | ? | ? |
DarkPlaces | 255 | 64k / 1400 | 64k | 10M jumps | 64k | 16k | 64k |
FTE | 32 | 1k*16 / 1.4k | 4B | 100M jumps | 1k*16 | 64f,4kv | ? |
Graphics[edit]
Beams | Console background | Far clip distance | GL textures | Temporary entities | Texture size | Texture size, sky | Video modes | Visible edicts | WinQ bmodel edges | WinQ bmodel vertices | Particles | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Normal limit | 24 | 640x480/320x200 | 4096 | 1024 | 64 | 1200k | =256x128 | 30 | 256 | 1000 | 500 | 2048 + |
Bengt Jardrup's | 256 | 1024M* | 16384 | 2048* | 512 | 1024M* | any* | 600 | 4096 | 3000 | 1000 | 2048 + |
DirectQ | Unlimited | 640x480 + | Infinite | Unlimited | Unlimited | Unlimited | 4x2 or higher | Unlimited | 65536 | N/A | N/A | Unlimited |
ProQuake 4 | 24 | 640x480/320x200 | cvar set | 1024 | 64 | 1200k | =256x128 | 600 | 4096 | 3000 | 1000 | 2048 + |
Quore | 32 | Current resolution | Unlimited | 2048 | 256 | 1200k | =256x128 | N/A | 1024 | N/A | N/A | 32k |
DarkPlaces | 256 | Unlimited | Infinite | Unlimited | 65536 | Unlimited | =256x128 | Unlimited | Unlimited | N/A | N/A | Unlimited |
FTE | 64 | Unlimited | Infinite | Unlimited | Unlimited | Unlimited | =256x128 | N/A | Unlimited | N/A | N/A | 32k |
Misc.[edit]
Command/script buffer | Console buffer size | Edicts | Efrags | File handles | Models, precached | Mods, unique | Sounds, precached | Sounds, unique | Temporary files | Zone size, default | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Normal limit | 8k | 16k | 600 | 640 | 10 | 256 | 512 | 256 | 512 | heapsize | 48k |
Bengt Jardrup's | 64k | 256k | 4096 | 2048 | 100 | 1024 | 2048 | 1024* | 2560 | 1024M* | 320k |
DirectQ | 1024k | 256k | 65536 | N/A (unused) | N/A (unused) | 4096 | 4096 | 4096 | 512 | Unlimited | Unlimited |
ProQuake 4 | 8k | 64k | 2048 | 640 | 10 | 256 | 512 | 256 | 512 | heapsize | 1 MB |
Quore | 8k | 64k | 8192 | 2048 | 10 | 256 | 512 | 256 | 512 | heapsize | 48k |
DarkPlaces | 640k | 1048576 | 32768 | Unlimited | Unlimited | 8192 | 8192 | 4096 | Unlimited | Unlimited | Unlimited |
FTE | 64k C | lines:1024 C | 4m | N/A | N/A | 1024 | 2048 | 1024 | 2048 | Unlimited | Unlimited |